Bike infraction shows up on Driver's Abstract?!

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I'm applying for a driving job, and told them I had a clean driver's record (I've been driving occasionally for ten years with no accidents or tickets). Yesterday I got my Driver's Abstract to find that a ticket I got last fall on my bike, for not doing a full stop at a stop sign, appears on my Abstract with nothing noting that it is a cycling infraction.

I can understand why it would make sense for all infractions to appear on my record, after all I was technically "driving" when I went through the stop sign. But if this is an administrative error, and there is any way to get it off my record, that would help in...getting hired. Also, will this affect my insurance rates even though no demerit points were deducted? If anyone more knowledgeable that me can help out, I would appreciate it.

I so absolutely relate to what you are saying!

Why did you hand the officer your driver's license?

I doubt there is anything you can do now, bicycles are considered vehicles.

Good Luck!

David Pylyp
Living in Toronto

Tell them you were on a bicycle and it ought to be removed.

How long ago was the infraction? I'm assuming because the conviction is showing up you're well past the point of fighting it. Despite what most traffic cops will tell you - insurance rates really don't have much to do with points, it's the number of convictions, and whether they are major or minor. The insurance company will charge a percentage on your premium depending on the number of convictions, and the severity of them. Some companies have a limit for the number of allowable convictions on your record before they will no longer insure you (i.e. 4 or more minors, 2 majors, etc). It's a long shot but you could try going to the court house, scheduling a meeting with the Justice of the Peace, grovelling, and see if he will re-open your case. If he does - read up on fighting traffic tickets in court and fight it there.

Insurance companies can only rate you according to convictions you have had while driving a motor vehicle. Demerit points can only be issued to someone with a driver's license while driving a motor vehicle. Though if you were seeking life insurance of an extremely high dollar amount the insurer may ask you about your risks, convictions for anything would become a consideration.

Delaware71, If a call to the Ministry of Transportation does not clear this up for you asking for a new trial is a possibility. There is a time limit though set out in the POA,

http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/html/statutes/english/elaws_st...

Essentially you are asking for a new trial because you did not know you were being convicted as an operator of a motor vehicle. Hopefully before you get this far someone will save the court a lot time and fix this administrative error.

Bicycles are not a Motor Vehicle, this can be rescinded off of your driver's abstract
Contact the ministry of Transportation. Moving Violations on a bicycle do not affect your
Drivers Licences Period.

You have to understand the government workers don't care thats why you have to.
They just stamp forms like a bunch of retarded drones duhhhh oooops you mean you
were on a bicycle??????? Is pretty much the answer you are gonna get, then they will probably
not know what to do and have to call a supervisor. The supervisor being a lazy government employee (notice I didn't say worker) you don't have to work to be an employee. He or she is not going to know either and he/she will not find out for you on your behalf thats why you have to know the law and stick it in their stupid faces....Get it? Got it? Great! Now go show them how stupid they really are!

Bicycles are not a Motor Vehicle, this can be rescinded off of your driver's abstract
Contact the ministry of Transportation. Moving Violations on a bicycle do not affect your
Drivers Licences Period.

You have to understand the government workers don't care thats why you have to.
They just stamp forms like a bunch of retarded drones duhhhh oooops you mean you
were on a bicycle??????? Is pretty much the answer you are gonna get, then they will probably
not know what to do and have to call a supervisor. The supervisor being a lazy government employee (notice I didn't say worker) you don't have to work to be an employee. He or she is not going to know either and he/she will not find out for you on your behalf thats why you have to know the law and stick it in their stupid faces....Get it? Got it? Great! Now go show them how stupid they really are!

Thanks everyone! I will contact the Ministry of Transportation.

Just a follow-up: I called the Ministry of Transportation, and was told that bicycle infractions are indeed supposed to show up on your Driver's Abstract. Same with boating offences.

Maybe on your abstract, but no demerit points shall be given to your driver's license.

I wonder if J-walking tickets show up on your driver's abstract also?